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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Nov 15, 2005 4:18am
Forum: etree Subject: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

This is in response to a recent opinio0n that 12-31-85 is the best NYE show available. While I agree that it was a very nice show,Having attended every NYE show from 81-86 I would not place that show in the top three. I tend to seperate the eras at 1975, because that's when the show formula began to morph into the familiar distinct 2 set format, and in some ways its like comparing apples and oranges, two different bands. I understand that opinions are subjective and one persons 5 star show is another's 2 star show. Having said that,( and Keeping in mind that possibly the best one, 12-31-78, is unavailable because it has been released in disc/dvd form) what are your 3 favorite NYE(1976 to the end) shows to DL???
Here Are Mine
#1... 12-31-81: three electric sets and one semi accoustic set with J Baez. Talk about dream songlists, this show contains one of the greatest Shakedowns, Cold Rain, Big Boss Man, Mustve been the roses and CC rider in the 1st set alone. The rest of the show??/ Only Aiko, Playin, Terrapin, Other One , NFA, Goin Down the Road, Morning dew....and Oh Yeah, Dark Star, Bertha, Good Love

#2 12-31-1984: Featuring A great Shakedown, Peggy-O, Bird song, and a mid set Jack straw in Set 1. Sugar Mag, Scarlet - Fire, Spanish Jam, Wheel and Lovelight in Set 2.
And Gimme some Love, Uncle John's Band and Baby Blue in Set 3.

#3 12-31-76: this show is the bridge from the old to new formats and eras: Sugar Mag, Eyes, Playin, Wharf Rat, Help/slip/Franklin's Morning Dew, Uncle john's Band, bid you Goodnight.

Also honorable mention to 12-31-82 w/ Etta James.

I'm sure this list will stick in someone's craw,that's the beauty of being a Deadhead, we all get something different out of the band, i would love to see your list.

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Poster: *Merlin* Date: Nov 17, 2005 11:42pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

I agree with Strat that '90 was a sick NYE show, the instruments all just sound cool, great tones, and the ensemble playing is totally ON and just like 12/31/81, the setlist is top notch as is the sound quality. And check out the Eyes from '76. Jerry is wonderfully frenetic and clear, a hint at 77's goodness for sure. Man this show was off my radar until this thread but it cooks.

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Poster: US Blues Date: Nov 15, 2005 7:26am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

Ohhh, PG, 1976 til the end? 1972 is the best GD show played on New Year's. (Although there appears to be no tape of 1968 ;-( ). Now I realize people have had lot's of fun at various NYE shows, but musically...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMatthew Vernon Date: Nov 15, 2005 11:20am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

I think in the notes on the release of the soon to be released Fillmore 69 multitracks there was a statement that they actually had the multitrack equipment at the 68 NYE show, but then many guests started plugging in and basically overloaded the signals so the tapes were useless. They then reused the 68 NYE multitrack tape (because it was expensive) to record the 69 material that eventually became Live/Dead.

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Poster: US Blues Date: Nov 16, 2005 8:43pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

Mickey Hart always said "record more than you erase," but erasing '68 New Years brings tears to my eyes. However, 1972 was also recorded in multitrack as documented on this website:

http://barncard.com/gd.html

It contains photos by Steve Barncard (the guy who produced "American Beauty" and other great albumns from back in the day) of the sound system at the 1972 NYE show, including the multitrack machine that Betty Cantor-Jackson ran that night. So, where's my vault release?

This post was modified by US Blues on 2005-11-17 04:43:52

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMatthew Vernon Date: Nov 16, 2005 10:56pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

Here was the article I referenced:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/08/DDGDCFJDAJ1.DTL

The relevant bit is here:


The Fillmore West in 1969 was home base to the Dead, who had operated the upstairs space at Market and Van Ness streets as the Carousel Ballroom only months earlier, before impresario Bill Graham took over the lease. The band arrived for the four-night run at the end of February to make the first live album ever to be recorded on 16-track equipment and 2-inch tape.

During the final stages of recording its third album, "Aoxomoxoa" (1969), the Dead had discovered one of the two prototype recording consoles developed by Ampex. The band then rerecorded the album using the new technology. With the greatly expanded capacity of the 16-track machine, the group was eager to road-test the gear on a live performance. Dead engineers Bob Matthews and Betty Cantor got their chance at the band's 1968 New Year's Eve show at Winterland. It did not go well the first time out.

"There was incredible amounts of distortion, missing tracks," said Lemieux. For the final set, the band called out the other musicians on the bill to jam, until there were three or four players per track. "It was one big blur of 16-track distortion by the end." Reels of the new 2-inch tape were so costly, the band erased the New Year's Eve recordings and recorded over them on a more successful outing at the Avalon Ballroom in January 1969, which produced the versions of "Turn On Your Love Light" and "The Eleven" used on the "Live/Dead" double LP. Nevertheless, when the band rolled into the Fillmore West six weeks later, eight rolls of tape from the Avalon had been erased, ready to use on the Fillmore recordings. Lemieux found Fillmore West reels with both "NYE" and "Avalon" scratched out on the label.

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Poster: US Blues Date: Nov 17, 2005 11:13am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

Thanks for that Matt, great reading and history. But about 1972...

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Poster: adroot02 Date: Nov 15, 2005 11:09am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

Well, I felt I had to respond just to clear the matter. What I actually said in my earlier post was that 12-31-85 is my favorite New Year's show. Not the Best ever (though in my opinion it is one of the most enjoyable listens on my itunes). But, since the can is open...

My other faves would have to be 12-31-77 and 12-31-78 with a nice dash of 12-31-89. I know that none of these choices are too daring but they are all smoking shows.

And, it is a great thing that with so many distinct flavors of this one band there really is something for just about everybody. I have to admit that I am a fan of the late 80's Brent era stuff because that is when I found out about the band and those were the first bootlegs I ever owned. But, its so hard to nail down any one show over the whole bunch. I like so many shows for different reasons. And, the fact of the matter is that 12-31-85 while one of my all time favorties probably only ranks in my top ten overall shows. But, it is still a favorite.

So, with that said, I'll pass the buck. Just wanted to clear that up. Have a good one.

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Poster: alexj Date: Nov 15, 2005 4:11pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

12/31/72 - no doubt;

'72 is my favorite grateful dead year, and this show, to me, sums up the scope of the year, both emotionally and musically. there are countless grateful dead shows that when you listen to them, convey a feeling that lets you, the faithful listener, know that something special went down inside that venue, and this show is one of them...

it's all about the 2nd set, "truckin'->other one->morning dew" - close to an hour altogether, and so drencehed with beautiful grateful dead floaty, intense psychedelia; it is definitely the best truckin'->other one(imho), yes better than dp 23, and 9/28/72; in fact, it crazy to say that it's the best grateful dea jam ever...

12/31/81 - swiggety sweet; 2nd set - ken kesey "gong bong" -> iko-iko-> (SICK, SICK, SICK)PLAYIN'->TERRAPIN'; later sick, rolling "morning dew" (best of the 80's???)

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Nov 15, 2005 8:31pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

Can't see this thread going on too long, too much consensus.

'72 is the best and '76 probably second. '84 was the best I attended.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Nov 17, 2005 8:30am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best New years Downloads, Grateful Dead

12-31-1972 certainly has the best peak jams, 12-31-1981 gives you the 4 set marathon, 12-31-84 has that great Shakedown, 12-31-1990 with branford and a monster NFA...my favorite NYE show overall is 12-31-1978